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Post by Amelius on Apr 23, 2005 4:19:59 GMT -5
yeahp, just give me suggestions, cuz every once in a while I enjoy catering to your whims. In the fyoot-cher! There's anything you'd like to see I might see about it. sometimes youse guys are thinking on the same track as me...
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Post by devi on Apr 23, 2005 11:04:38 GMT -5
A character who has hidden charisma. Like he can supernaturally make his charisma so low that he becomes invisible to all sentient things looking at him (even if they're watching him/her on a TV or something, the person still seems to disappear because the persons mind just wont register their presence)
So this won't work on: extremely disciplined minds (although they'll still notice the change), motion sensors or the like, Animals of less than mammalian intelligence (because they don't have a subconscious to deem him a non-entity, whereas a dog might), some monsers/zombies (like that chinese hopping zombie that can see people's breath), cameras (while those looking at the picture might not see him due to this, the picture will have him in it, also this looses some effectiveness over video, or on a photograph, so people would be more likely to see him). So a robot could find him; a kimodo dragon could find him; a mindless undead should be able to detect his presence, but it might just classify him as another mindless undead; Things that do not use sight or sonar to see can find him; that sort of thing.
Also keeping his charisma this low reqires concentration, so while you could paint him pink in a grey room and still not see him, if he sneezed or flinched or passed out, you would instantly notice him.
Also if he's talking, moving, or if you are in physical contact with him it greatly weakens the effect allowing some people to see him, although chances are they won't remember him.
If for some reason he looses concentration he goes to his usual limit on charisma (just above normal).
Fianlly he can unlock greater charisma he holds back. At full power his manipulatory capabilites become awesome. For example, he could walk into your bedroom, convince you he is supposed to be there, then convince you that today is yesterday and that you ahd just strangled your own mother with your bare hands and buried her under your bed, while he's wearing a straightjacket, while your mother two witnesses, your father, your best friend and a cop are all also in the room providing evidence and trying to convince you otherwise. Then he can convince you that the sun is the earth and that you became stranded in space while you were asleep. By the way he just told you you were asleep, otherwise you would have been riding your bicycle to the grocery store. Basically he can make lies the truth.
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Post by devi on Apr 23, 2005 11:30:17 GMT -5
So that is his special ability, it won't work on people who know what he is doing. So while he can conwince strangers that the surgeon general said to shoot yourself in the head, he tends to just shoot peopel who know him, or have someone else do it.
Someone else with extreme hypnotic abilites might be able to recognise what he's doing while he does it and stop themselves from being convinced.
Anyway I'll let you decide the details of his capabilites. Basically he is a demonic-fae hybrid and this charisma which he can decieve anyone is his life enrgy. While most fae live until they are killed by some outside force, this guy normally wouldn't live more than twenty years, and thats without decieving people.
As I see it he has a dark weapon, the heart piercing épée. Originally made during the reign of Calligula of Rome, it was designed for vampires so powerful that they no longer needed the nutrients of blood as sustinence and could now feed entirely off of the life energy of their victems. The heart piercer (originally a sacrificial dagger, reforged with steel in the 1800's in it's current state) did just that, it would pierce the 'heart '. The 'heart' being the core of the spirit-body and the home of the soul as well as the source of will.
The escaping energies of the victem would flow up the blade and into an open wound on the hand that used it. If it actually pierced the heart of a victem therre was a chance their sould would be drawn out as well.
Because of the extremely owerful magics in the blade, the heart-piercer itself takes a small poertion of the energies it drains to fuel itself, and in the event that a soul is drained, it takes a portion of that as well.
The history of the blade is interesting for a long time the blade was passed down genaration to genaration through a family of nobleman vampires residing in the papal states, but in the 1800's the current owner decided that the sacraficial dagger was to cumbersome to use in combat, and that therefore he should have it reforged with stronger amterials so that it could be used in combat. The story of how this evil device was reforged is onetruly of horror but is unimportant at this time.
The sword, as it ws now worked well in it's new form agains humans and hunters, but when a rival vampire attacked the owner was too quick to use it. He immidiately pierced his rival through the heart; now, he may well have drained his rivals soul on the initial strike, but vampires do not immidiately suffer for that do they?
The rival, upon being stabbed, pulled out the sword... To be contiued...
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Post by devi on Apr 23, 2005 17:13:50 GMT -5
pulled out the sword, and in one motion shattered the arm of his opponent and stabbed him with his own sword. The owner released his grip, and the energy of his opponent stopped flowing into him, his opponent then used the sword to behead him. This caused almost all the energy of the owner to be drained into the blade, the new weilder lacking the cut on his hand could not absorb the energy drew out of its owner, but nor did he know how to stop the blade from draining his own essence.
In the end they were both found dead, in ashes. The rival with last moments had broken the sword in two. The hilt and the blade.
Not only rubish, these shattered components were dangerous rubbish. Severly damaged magical weapons of a life-draining, soul-eating nature is not something for vampires to play with. It is unpredictable at best.
The broken blade was confused. It did not know who or what it was; over centuries past of magical augmentation and with multitudinous fragments of vengful souls and spirits inside of it it had once been sentient, but if it was then, or is now is not known.
The broken parts were disposed of by sending one of them as far away from the vatican as possible while burying the other in a secret catacomb underground cathedral. The blade no longer resides in the catacombs where records indicate that it should have. It's current location is completely unknown.
The ship however was stowed on board with a mercinary who was traveling along with Ameirigo Vespucci in his search for the fountain of youth.
During the trip they lost track of the mercinary, but we do know that the fountain of youth was destroyed around that time, and it wasn't broken or gone as Ameirigo reported to his leaders; It was dry.
In any case what we know next about the blade is that a travelling mage saw it for sale in a police auction in tampa bay florida. When she returned home she investigated it more thuroghly. While she did not know what it was she had found, she did know it was magical, the devided sword was weakened and so she did not realise how dangerous it could be, but she did know how difficult it is to repair an augmented ancient broken magical weapon without destroying or discharging its unstable magicks.
So, she gave it to her apprentice telling him to repair it. The appretice managed to stablize it, managed to remove rust, repair damage, and restore the intricate craftmanship and smooth out a spike appearantly designed to pierce whatever hand held the hilt. But for the life of him he could not get the magicks to activate; until in trying to restor some engravings on the hilt he cut his finger, he saw a droplet of blood flow from his finger through the freshly restored channel and into the hilt. He knew this was uncanny but could not tell what had happened. He gave it to his master and she declared that the blade was clearl vampiric and that if anyone were to try to use it it would probibly suck them dry. She told the boy that he had done well to repair it so finely but that now he would have to destroy it. The boy put in in the forge to melt it down and return it to mundane metal except thatwhen he put it in the flames they almost instantly died, even the coals lost their glow in a matter of seconds. The hilt was white hot and was begining to melt the tongs he was using to holt it with. He immidiately dunked it into the water and as it cooled he wondered how he would dispose of such a thing; finally he remembered the advice of a girl he had met at the magic shop, when asked about such things she told him she threw out botched experiments in the back yard. So our young apprentice attached a anti-magick seal to the hilt and threw it out.
The precise time and place where the faedemon found it or for that matter learned how to use it are unknown. To what extent it retains it's former abilities is unknown.
What is known is that as long as it is with him it is constantly feeding him. That is why we elites can feel it's presence so sharply when he is near, for our souls do a similar thing, we too draw nourishment from all spiritual energies around us jsut as this sword does.
We know that when it grows strong enough the hilt remembers the blade and uses it's enery to form a simulation of it's blade, and thus the incorporeal blade forms glowing with an eldritch light. We have looked into the mind of the weilder for breif periods and it seems to remember it's hatred of vampires that its victems gave it. And it seems to guide it's chosen weilder to a similar disposition.
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Post by devi on Apr 23, 2005 17:22:38 GMT -5
oops I changed the identity of the speaker from myself to an elite partway through that sorry.
So the guy has a life-draining sword, the ability to manipulate anyone at the cost of his lifespan, an 'inexlicable' hatred of vampires and he is a monster. To dark and purposeful among the fae and too capricious and playful among demons. Rejected by both he now lives among humans. He doesn't like to hurt people, who aren't enemies, or jerks, or annoyingly stupid, or hypocritical, or if they make funny noises when you play pranks on them (the unseelie idea of prank and the demonic idea of funny, he has a wicked sense of humor).
Basically, he wants to be nice but is instinctively and impulsively and accidentally, a [very mean person].
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Post by Rehiro on Apr 24, 2005 17:38:56 GMT -5
dude you talk a lot! actually that is a pretty cool idea but I think someone is living through Amys comic. you should write a novel or a webcomic of your own or something. I have a huge story that I wanna tell you people as well but im not going to tell you here . Ill think of a suggestion for CTV later. Sorry about not giving an idea in the ideas to throw around thread, I have shamed myself . But on the other hand I could still stop myself from posting this as I look upon my computer screen.
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Post by Amelius on Apr 25, 2005 4:42:57 GMT -5
Devi: wow, now that is a very detailed and cool idea! I'd have to agree though, that is something you might want to approach yourself, I'd feel bad taking such a cool idea for my own (even though I did ask for suggestions ^_^) that does sound like a fascinating character to write for though, I like the idea of someone who tries to do right but is misunderstood because of their actions and words. and the extensive history of like everything you put into that? Again, wow.....wish my stuff was that detailed! Let it be known, I am impressed...(and envious!) thanks for sharing that with me!
Rehiro, don't feel bad about not posting an idea! there's no rush at all, take your time, if you come up with something I'd be glad to hear it!
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Post by Soap on Apr 26, 2005 9:31:30 GMT -5
There's a character limit for posts?
How am I going to post 3 unabriged shakespearian plays NOW?
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Post by deltaT on Apr 26, 2005 20:34:09 GMT -5
Leave out all the consonants? I'd post an idea if I had one....I'd like to see Rosemary and Kavonn get together, but that is so unoriginal! Or, how about a story line about someone falling into Mannick's belly portal? Foomy would fit. It wouldn't be the first portal he fell into. I almost hesitate to call those ideas after devi's contribution.
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Post by devi on Apr 28, 2005 19:39:49 GMT -5
I did go a little too far though didn't I. I wouldn't call them "unabridged" though.
Anyways I like that idea of someone falling into mannicks belly, it could be light-hearted or sinister or discover-Mannick's-dangerous-secret or anything. If nothing else just the amount of possibilities it provides are interesting. And along the same lines the girl from Mannics belly could come back with whoever else accidentally went in there. If it's even an accident in the first palce (Scary blue tendrils...)
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Post by deltaT on Apr 28, 2005 23:40:59 GMT -5
I'm glad you like the idea too, I was afraid it sounded a little silly.
Are you a writer?
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Post by devi on May 2, 2005 20:47:15 GMT -5
Nah, student. But I read a lot; and I feel little to no shame in taking something that someone else has done and running with it, provided that I make it my own in the process. When I draw stuff 80 to 90% of the techniques I use I have taken/learned from other artists I respect. I figure as long as I don't duplicate their style no harm. And no harm no foul. I suppose with my more advanced English courses now I might be doing that to fiction that I read.
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Post by devi on May 2, 2005 21:09:16 GMT -5
Okay here's an idea, and I'll try to be less specific this time.
Menu and Zeno are out in the woods and are spotted by one of the mage seeking scouts that Rodericke (he had probibly followed Mye or Kavonn to a location near the house) he sees zeno & immidiately returns to base, soonaftermenu is kidnapped and his paw/hand is sent back along with a request for Xeno to show up at a given location. stuff happens the vamps give a tip to blaine that he should find some very dangerous demons at the house, so Blaine gets everyone together to attack the cabin while xeno is off being attacked by some hitman demon (Xeno's sister?)Meanwhile Vic and Charby have discovered that the blonde chick was not some hapless victem but a mage that Roderike hoped could save/restore his lover, so they're out dealing with that. The hunters attack and Hex and Mye's magic won't work for some reason, kavonns staff alerts him as to the location of some kind of magic inhibitor that is rendering most of the cabin inhabitants far waker than they should be, so he bolts off to go get it except Azelia notices an oppertunity and before he can reach the inhibitor he is Ambushed by her whole family. Also foomy has fallen through mannicks belly hole and Amelius being the nice guy that he is has gone in to rescue him and they are no doubt in mortal peril too. And just to make sure we see Zerloke and co. as well as Adria being summoned to Samricks ball/party because Gabrielle, having never fed has gone big monster form and after attempting to kill several elites (hence an unarmed Nicko) and is now attemting to devour a suprisingly agile benito and a dangerous if well entertained Samrick.
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Post by devi on May 2, 2005 21:10:33 GMT -5
Feel free to add on if you think that anyting else could go wrong, like Blaine finding and identifying the staff of Oswego or something.
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Post by deltaT on May 2, 2005 23:25:33 GMT -5
...only that Amelius, being the nice girl that she is, would go after Foomy. Or lady, or woman, or whatever. Unless you mean someone other than our gracious hostess? Personally, I almost never have any ideas, especially when I'm actually asked for them! (stage fright )
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Post by Rehiro on May 2, 2005 23:36:14 GMT -5
Is Amelius a character now?
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Post by Amelius on May 3, 2005 13:40:24 GMT -5
Very nice, sounds epic! (and strangely enough I was thinking along the same lines in a few parts of it for an upcoming storyline, but I wont say what for now to leave it a surprize ^_^) the only thing I am curious to know is whom was intended by the name Amelius?
And as for now, I have not made myself a starring character save for the 2 cameos in earlier comics, I had fancied it once before but ultimately rejected the idea with the realization that it would likely be met with much protest, despite the purpose of my character would be for self-deprecating humor rather than 4th wall buffoonery and glorification.though I'm sure another female character is needed for the comic, they likely would prefer a more attractive female than myself, and I'm not saying I'm ugly or anything, but... Anyhow, I'd be the victim of the household's terrible pranks...beccause it's fun ^_^ I do, however, have a character for myself at Starving Artists, which was what I had wanted to use for CTV but again, I felt the choice to involve myself in this world so personally would have been unwise.
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Post by devi on May 3, 2005 16:28:51 GMT -5
I apologise I meat Phineas, for some reason I must have confused the two.
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Post by devi on May 3, 2005 16:41:34 GMT -5
I'm sorry. So Phineas follows foomy into the belly hole, encounters a vicious pack of Jakalopes (appearantly dominant predators in their own world/place) And are trying desparately to find, mannick's ex-girlfriend as she is the only person they can think of who knows how to get out of the belly hole. Also as Xeno in his plight begins to get desparate, we cut ominously to the well hidden scythe as it appears to glow. Also some of LaBelle noticing the trouble at the cabin goes back to find the elf and the lemuros only in the process she accidently leads someone else to them someone more than willing to take a lemuro hide; for the money, to feed little wolf-elf children or something.
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Post by Amelius on May 3, 2005 17:13:21 GMT -5
hey, no need to apologize! Somehow I figured you meant Phineas, since they do have a similar sound to them. I really am liking these ideas though! ^_^
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Post by deltaT on May 3, 2005 23:22:11 GMT -5
I'm not surprised you meant someone else...Phineas makes sense since he is a little more likely to fit than most others. Sounds like a really intersting story! Can't wait to see what Amelius has in store.
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Post by Rehiro on May 6, 2005 15:36:38 GMT -5
How about one where a portal opens up behind Mannick and that wierd hand that gives him hats grabs him and pulls him through. Then in the next panel you see the girl that came out of Mannicks belly portal is pulling him out through HER belly portal.
I havent thought any further than that but you could toy with that concept if you wanted.
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Post by deltaT on May 6, 2005 22:51:58 GMT -5
Cool! I like your suggestion, rehiro!
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Post by d3vi on May 7, 2005 13:20:40 GMT -5
That would be great! Phineas and Foomy caugt in Mannicks belly-hole but before they can figure out how to get out Mannick himself is pulled in and out trough her into himself. So now all three of them are trapped withing his hole. Them and the girl.
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Post by Rehiro on May 7, 2005 19:56:34 GMT -5
Yeah that would be awesome! ;D
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Post by Rehiro on May 7, 2005 20:21:02 GMT -5
And the way it would start would be while Mannick is sleeping on the couch Foomy would be playing video games with Phineas, and Mannick would do that thing where he grabs the person and cuddles them in his sleep. So while he is doing that to Foomy, Foomy would be struggling to get free and Phineas would be laughing at him and mocking him about how he was beating him at the video game. So Foomy accidentally pulls up Mannicks shirt while he is struggling and falls into the belly portal right in front of Phineas' eyes. Phineas then shows that he is more than just a creepy freeloading jerk and heads in after him.
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Post by deltaT on May 7, 2005 21:55:28 GMT -5
Yeah! And I know how they can get back at the end...they somehow get into the Jackalope dimension, and are chased down by the portal parasite beast, which sends them back through Kavonns hat.
But how do they all end up in the Jackalope dimension (it seems statistically unlikely)? Devi, Rehiro...?
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Post by devi on May 7, 2005 23:44:06 GMT -5
They are all inside a hole that is inside a hole that is inside a friend who is also in the hole. I'm sure schrodenger and mendelev and all thse guys would have a grat time trying to figure out how what's hapening works but with my limited knowledege of subspace vectors, quantem physics and non-euclidian geometry, I'd say that all of hem are just as likely to turn into cheese as anything else. Science (as far as i know ) doesn't really understand what is going on in a situation like this so basically as far as they're concerned anything is possible its just a matter of probibility. So as long as mannick is in his own belly hole it seems to mar that the way out would probibly be for him to reach in and grab himself and pull himself back out. In short I dunno. I'm not really sure enough about the barriers between worlds to try and say how to move between them. It probibly depends on where they are as to how to go somewhere else.
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Post by Rehiro on May 8, 2005 2:17:49 GMT -5
Okay, so now I will attempt to connect this story to another one of devis Foomy and Phineas are in the jackalope dimension after going through Mannicks belly hole. They do not know where they are and begin to get hungry. Eventually they stumble upon a herd of jackalopes which they attack and kill a good number of. They build a fire and feast on jackalopes which turn out to be insanely delicous. After a while they cant eat anymore and find that they have horrible indegestion (jackalope will do that) when all of a sudden the blue portal dragon appears! our friends are too nauseas to run very fast and are promptly eaten. Meanwhile Kavonn is after the magic inhibitor that is weakening his friends but as he gets closer his magic grows weaker and weaker. Azeleas family ambushes him and Kavonn finds himself in a bad situation. Suddenly he feels the presence of unwanted jackalopes in his hat. With an angry curse he unknowingly throws Foomy into the hands of Hydrangea (Phineas falls out right after Foomy, which causes Kavonn to realize his mistake) Foomy exclaims he is feeling nauseas and lets out a huge jackalope enhanced fart. This frys the entire Benson family and they all retreat in fear and disgust, Foomy sits on the ground and says "that feels better" I might be going a little far, Foomy and Phineas dont exactly seem like the jackalope murdering type but you'd be surprised what you'd do when your starving
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Post by deltaT on May 8, 2005 15:33:09 GMT -5
That sounds good! But where are Mannick and Mannick-girl?
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