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Post by Zolah on Oct 5, 2005 7:48:43 GMT -5
I have no idea.. well maybe, but thats not my fault cause he didnt have his hat..
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Post by silverwolf on Oct 5, 2005 15:27:15 GMT -5
Prehaps you stole HIS hat first?
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Post by Zolah on Oct 6, 2005 1:04:37 GMT -5
O.o - Lol, never thougth about that
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Post by silverwolf on Oct 6, 2005 16:38:39 GMT -5
It was just a thought, I wasn't there so I wouldn't know.
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Post by Rehiro on Oct 9, 2005 1:58:44 GMT -5
I lost my dream dictionary... so there will be no dream analysis until I find it... I know it seemed like I was done but I actually had intentions on keeping going (at least with Amelius' dreams) but alas it does not appear that I am currently able. When and if I find it I will try and do more analyzing.
I tried some websites and I now know why Amelius said nothing sounded right. It 'cause they suck, or at least the ones I was on did. I must have gotten lucky with the dictionary that I lost.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Oct 9, 2005 8:30:16 GMT -5
Aww, I hope you find it! I had the scariest dream ever. I don't think I am going to share it.... ... Lets just say it involved me having twins, and my friend making a manga about them... o.o
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Post by lysinias on Oct 9, 2005 12:42:34 GMT -5
Twins are, indeed, a terrifing thought.
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Post by silverwolf on Oct 9, 2005 15:58:50 GMT -5
Well, a thirteen-year-old HAVING twins is a scary thought to me. I like twins, so that part's okay.
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Post by Rehiro on Oct 9, 2005 23:34:02 GMT -5
I found it ;D you'll never guess my stupidity. It was in my backpack because I brought it to school to analyse a dream for a friend.
Time to break it in. Shippo, if you will let me have the honors:
Gack! it dosent have anything on twins! im sorry, thats a terrible way to start things off.
Regardless, its time to interpret Amelius' dreams:
Amelius dream analysis: part two
Im going to start with zombies and velocirapters today (sorry for the randomness of the things I choose to analyse)
Getting chased represents being pursued by what you have created with your thoughts, emotion, action and inaction. Usually avoiding a part of oneself. Getting chased by animal represents ones passions, anger and natural feelings. A car represents what drives you in life and the manner in which you make your way through life. Things that may drive you could be: sex drive, ambition, sense of failure, means of or desire to "get somewhere" in life, independence, personal coice and freedom. It is symbolic of the decisions that you make in life.
There is nothing for zombies or undead, though for monster it says: Internal emotions or drives you are frightened of; dread of death; a monstrous deed done or lie lived; your negative relationship with your life energy. Im supposed to tell you some approaches from "processing your dreams" to turn the monster into usable personal resources but i'll talk about that in another post if your interested. Theres nothing on velociraptors but it says that dinosaurs may represent a part of yourself, from which your present self has grown.
Not much good information on garages *sweat drop* except a bunch of stuff asking how you feel while your in there. Being trapped represents not being able to break free from past fears, attitudes, or relationships. Being held back by beliefs or religious views not conductive to personal growth. It says to see "wolf" which is interesting since that is one of the recuring creatures that come in your dreams. Playing cards represent opportunity, sociability, competition, a gamble or a sense of fate. Nudity can represent being seen as you truly are. Feelings or attitudes you use in everyday life to mask your true emotions. Expressing things that are not usually accepted socially. A desire to be intimate or to be seen as you truly are.
Anxiety about being nude can mean fear that others know what you really feel and desire. Feeling guilty about revealing acts or desires that are considered socially unnacceptable. It can mean feeling vulnerable and having ones weaknesses exposed; guilt about being a human animal with sexual characteristics and urges. Anxiety about not being adequate, lacking ability to meet the social norm.
I think you are having an internal conflict and, though your friends are always there, they fail to help you, or even notice your troubles. They are playing cards or simply being carried through your life. Cards represent socializing which is what your friends primary role is in your life and even through your suffering, they are incapable of moving beyond this role.
Much is stated on personal drives in this analysis. Your own personal drives and past experiences are forcing you forward and trapping you. You fear the drives and reasons for doing things that follow you through life and the past experiences that have made you what you are today.
These thoughts and experiences have put you into an extremely vulnerable position and/or they are creating inflexability in your life.
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Post by Amelius on Oct 10, 2005 9:37:13 GMT -5
hooray, I'm glad you found it! And the randomness is perfectly fine with me. I figure there wouldn't be much on raptors, but a lot of that analysis sounded pretty accurate to me. Perhaps the dinosaur is the old way I drew things? I always used to look back on old art and think it looked really crappy... My best explanation is that I've been very nervous/paranoid about my comic and what I'm going to do with it, I very badly want to get it published but so far there has been hurdles such as time, ability (I have to draw pages in B&W but I'm having a hard time getting a handle of it, I've been doing another comic like this but I've not had the same problem for a reason)and a bit of fear of rejection. I also have the tremendous fear of someone taking my idea and getting it out there first so I look like the one who's ripping someone off. I've been increasingly paranoid, even when I went to a Target store the other day. I know they've never even heard of my comic let alone seen it but the characters in their Halloween campaign remind me of my own so much I'm afraid someone will think that's where I stole the idea! (I haven't been able to locate a good example though) I've had other reasons for being paranoid in the past but this is among the top of my list at the moment. I know it is petty and I am worrying needlessly but it is making me a wreck! Besides that monkey on my back, the inflexability part I think my pertain most to my shedule for getting things dones lately, trying to improve and meet standards I don't think I am capable of at this point (this happens when I read comics that are far better than mine) and my parents urging me to get a job or at least put a donation button up (this makes me very nervous for a number of reasons) Figuring out how I'm going to arrange doing both webcomic and published version without delaying things for either will be a challenge as well (assuming I get accepted that is) But since these are mostly recent concerns,(except I've aways been afraid of the ripped-off thing) I'd say a lot of what has been going on with me for a long time is just a simple need to get my art to go somewhere, not for fame or money but because I want to share it is all. It feels like I'm running toward that goal that I can't really see or find and worries are trying to chase me off the path or trip me up... eh, anyways that's what my response to all that is. It really does make a lot of sense to me, so I thought I'd try and match things up with what I'm feeling at the moment. CTV has become one thing my life revolves around, my entire day is spent mulling over it. Second worrying obsession would be brushing my teeth (bad tooth nightmares lately despite 4 brushings a day with the one meal I'm awake or stopping drawing for) As for nudity, in real life I am very modest and shy, I haven't gone swimming in 2 years despite living in the "Great Lakes State" and even then my swimsuit includes shorts, and I doubt there has been a day this summer where I wore a tank top outside the house unless I was wearing another shirt over it. So of course being bare in a dream is not a fun experience for me, so I spend it hiding from the others in the dream so they really don't notice it anyway. I'm not a real big keeper of secrets that are my own (I'm very trustworthy with other's though) but I'm not overly open with my feelings with others either. In all, the mention of sense of failure and ambition really hit the nail on the head with this one, as those are concerns I've had for a while now. I've gotta chill out or something... If you'd like to discuss the thing with the monsters I would certainly be interested in reading about that!
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Post by silverwolf on Oct 10, 2005 19:26:19 GMT -5
Wow. That's a lot of...stuff you've got going on. I think a donation button would be a fine idea, none of us would complain, I'm sure, but if there are outside reasons that I'm not aware of, then I can't change that.
You are perfectly justifyed in worrying about plagerism of your characters. I feel the same way with some of my stuff. It utterly immpossible that big stores would want your stuff but it seems so easy to believe at the time.
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Post by Rehiro on Oct 10, 2005 23:34:26 GMT -5
Thats some good analysis Amelius. The best person to figure out your dream is yourself I suppose, but I just had to give it a shot. It would make sense that your comic is coming through to you in your dreams in other ways since its such a large part of your life. As for dinosoars, that sounds resonable as it is what you have grown from. Perhaps you have anxiety's about not having natural talent, but simply working so hard you got good. That there are tons of people better than you and could be better than you if they tried (this is not my oppinion. It is based off of previous comments you have made, and natural fears (as well as a few of my own thrown in)). But since the dinosoars were so specifically velociraptors, perhaps that means that there is some personal significance. In any case it seems to be the lesser of the two problems for you. Running does often mean moving towards a goal and these things trying to stop you but at the same time driving you forward at a pace that is difficult to keep up with makes complete sense. Maybe this means that your difficulty's are making you move faster and faster, but if you cant keep up with there demands, you dont think you'll be able to get up again. As for copywriting. You do know all of the rules involved?). Check out this page if you feel like it. Its probably just a bunch of stuff you already know, however: www.snopes.com/legal/postmark.aspMoving on to teeth. That is actually quite a common dream for many people and most likely has nothing to do with brushing. Losing teeth symbolises a sense of loss, such as death or it could be anxiety about an aging or changing body. I did the teeth falling out one because its the most common, but there was a surprising amount of tooth stuff, so if you want another analysis your going to have to specify. If your having so much troubles, y'know you could always take a break from the comic (I know I sound like a hypocrite but previous comments were made simply because I thought you might not be in as bad shape as everyone else thought and they were unintentionally calling you a freak for being so into the comic). After all, it is their privilege, not their right to read the comic and if you want to take a break you should be allowed to just say "okay, heres how its going down. Im not going to post for a week and if you dont like that, tough luck". It might even make you feel better, not being so confined. It can be easy to fall backwards after you've been so hard on yourself and you finally cut yourself some slack, but you've allready proved yourself to be one of great self discipline. I noticed that many of your dreams include boxes, so I thought I might analyse that for you as well. The box often represents what you have or hide within yourself. Memories, treasured experiences or emotions. This makes me think that the garage may symbolise your mind and the boxes, the monsters and your friends are its contents. Certain things that are bothering you in your mind are making you feel exposed and vulnerable within yourself. Unable to fight or defend yourself from your own thoughts. All in all I think that you fail to acknowledge yourself as the influential person that you are. You are extremely self conscience about nearly all aspects of your life. The processing your dreams thing is really big, so im going to leave it to another post. But see? im getting away with not doing something far less difficult than the struggles you go through every day. You should either allow yourself to think im being annoying and lazy, or allow yourself to realize how incredible it is that you do so much every day. Otherwise its just not fair.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Oct 11, 2005 20:41:44 GMT -5
Ehhehhehhehheh... I had another dream, but it isn't post worthy ^^;;;;;;;
About copywrites. I have a character named "Magenta" And there has been a chara in a disney movie called "Majenta"...
They have...
Been...
COMPARED!!!!!!!!!!1 ;__________;
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Oct 11, 2005 20:58:01 GMT -5
I think everybody's work has been compared or accused of being copied off something at one time... Mine has. But what I truly dislike is when my work is accused of being clichéd.
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Post by silverwolf on Oct 11, 2005 22:33:35 GMT -5
I hate that! SOO MUCH! I try to make my work origional but there's always that ONE PERSON.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Oct 11, 2005 22:40:54 GMT -5
*nods* It's so annoying... I don't mind if people criticise my art, but I put my heart and soul and imagination into inventing my characters. They're not clichéd OR rip-offs. (I get the cliché bit a lot more. Only one of my characters has been accused of being ripped off, and then only a minor bit. And yet people still make a big deal out of it.)
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Oct 12, 2005 19:40:20 GMT -5
Awws! Well... My art is critisized alot... but my characters.... are little pieces of my soul.... but people still critisize...
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Oct 12, 2005 20:12:20 GMT -5
And it's the same person... A friend of a friend, and you know how they are... I wouldn't mind so much if she had ever said anything positive at least once! My art's not THAT bad. Even I'll admit that. We can't all be, like, Rumiko Takahashi or Amelius or anyone else who draws well...
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Oct 12, 2005 20:13:47 GMT -5
Where is your comic? May I see? I'd like to see your art!
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Oct 12, 2005 20:53:29 GMT -5
I don't actually have a comic (I've been playing around with a few ideas, though). I draw a lot, though, and make up a lot of characters and stories. You can find my art at andsean.deviantart.com/ if you really wanna see my stuff. If you delve deep enough, you may find the first two pages of a manga I started writing for an RP my friend and I do (the same friend who has the critical friend, in fact). The actual RP is really long (180+ typewritten pages, last I checked), and has very complex stories and characters, which is why I wanted to draw it out like that... I just never got past those two pages coz I'm lazy. But a lot of the drawings there are devoted to characters from it (and other RPs like it).
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Post by silverwolf on Oct 13, 2005 15:26:10 GMT -5
YAY Rumiko Takahashi!
And I know people who do that constant critisizing thing. Bleh!
I have a friend who compares my characters to existing characters but she never accuses them of being blatent rip-offs. Ex. Rika acts just like Ryoko sometimes! I can't get all huffy about that, beacause she DOES act just like Ryoko sometimes.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Oct 13, 2005 15:53:18 GMT -5
I can get huffy though, coz my character Daisuke has an ability called the Windtunnel, which even though the characters and the move itself are NOTHING alike, is apparently a complete ripoff of Miroku. -_- Some people, eh?
And speaking of 'some people', someone I don't even know came ripping through my DA account and totally insulted my stuff for no reason. Not even the art; just the characters--and even made some personal attacks. ._o I don't even know who it was. Geez. What is the world coming to?
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Post by silverwolf on Oct 14, 2005 15:29:43 GMT -5
mean people insulting stranger's art just to be mean people?
And more than character has a 'wind tunnel'
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Oct 14, 2005 16:01:52 GMT -5
They weren't even insulting my art so much as me. They were all 'you're 19 and you still like this? God, you're an idiot' and 'People with stupid ideas should keep them to themselves. Next time you have one, do so. Don't post it online'. -_- And then when my friend Loopy defended me, he insulted her too. Geez. And someone who has submitted no art themselves really has no right to be criticising other people, yeah?
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Post by Rehiro on Oct 14, 2005 16:29:39 GMT -5
Taimatsu, I apologize if I unintentionally brought you into a conversation which you might have resented and I hope that simply because of my gender you will not make judgments against me. Even though your mindset may be different than my own I do not resent you.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Oct 14, 2005 16:55:22 GMT -5
To Rehiro: Of course not. ^-^ We're all friends here, yeah? And we're allowed to think differently. It'd be boring if people thought the same way. I apologise if I seemed hostile, or whatever I seemed to you. *bows*
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Post by Rehiro on Oct 15, 2005 1:09:32 GMT -5
Cool. Yes, I thought that perhaps since you pointed out that all your friends were girls more than once, you may have some resentment towards the gender that had outcasted you, or perhaps the gender that you chose to iscolate yourself from because you disagreed with their values. So I thought you might have some kind inferiority/superiority thing about me because of your inability to meet my society's social norm, but still believing that you were more enlightened.
Anyway, the point of my story is that I think far too much and I discredited you, so for that I apologise.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Oct 15, 2005 7:43:20 GMT -5
Yay! Friends! I beleive a group hug is in order!
*everyone scoots away*
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Oct 15, 2005 11:20:38 GMT -5
I like hugs... I've only ever had eight in real-life, though.
Nah, I don't resent my gender. I just get along better with girls (at least in a friendship way).
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Post by Rehiro on Oct 15, 2005 11:48:23 GMT -5
*scoots away*
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