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Post by Rehiro on Apr 24, 2005 21:05:12 GMT -5
Is the only difference between Hexaviers pendent and Kavons staff is the pendent is defensive and and the staff is offensive/defensive?
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Post by Amelius on Apr 25, 2005 2:57:58 GMT -5
exactly, Hex's is also linked to his emotional/mental state rather than his thoughts, whereas Kavonn's staff is a veritable wish-machine. Of course the only reason Kavonn doesn't try to take over the world with it and abuse the capabilities of it is due to the sense of responsibility he has both forced himself to tend to and also the hat controls this feeling as well. He was chosen precisely for his manner in such things, and was raised on strong morals when he was still human. To put it this way, he is a gaurdian for an ultimate power, and was chosen specifically to keep it out of the wrong hands. At times the hat tests him, like with what we saw recently, and he learned that being dependent on such things is not always right; you should learn to fight your own battles.
Hex recieved his pendant from the one who brought him back to life, and of course while it could never be used against "master" while they were under his influence, it indeed holds great powers of protection, and a little too much negative black magic that tends to be the reason Hex's punishments seem a little severe. In contrast, the wand that was given to his sister had a great deal of white healing magic, which both the twins have at their disposal without their magic items, but cannot be used on themselves, only others. Of course the real intent was for them to use it to keep each other well, for master sent them on very dangerous task missions.
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Post by Rehiro on Apr 25, 2005 21:25:32 GMT -5
Is Hex's ability to bring people back to life and his ability to create life linked with his pendent? is Kavonn also able to do this?
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Post by Amelius on Apr 26, 2005 12:48:40 GMT -5
Not necessarily, though the magic does help a bit. Hex had to do a few drastic things to bring his own sister back to life, and when he made rempote beast he used mostly common spells to bring life to him as well as a few scientific approaches (a la Dr. Frankenstein) to bring his pet/butler to life. Kavonn, at this point, cannot create life with his staff, but he can alter existing life dramatically, and heal those close to death. If he is near death himself or dies without his staff, there is a short time where if he has it placed on or near him he will come back to rejuvinate his energy and heal himself. He can also use it to displace spirits, move them to inanimate bodies/objects, and sometimes raise the dead, but what he brings up will be either unstable or somewhat of a mindless, will-less slave/zombie.
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Post by deltaT on Apr 26, 2005 20:39:06 GMT -5
At this point....?
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Post by Rehiro on Apr 26, 2005 21:50:41 GMT -5
Would it be possible for Hex to do something positive if he really strongly felt it? One time he created a barrier to protect him and his friends but this could have been because they were under attack and he was protecting himself.
Also does Hex have any control at all about what he does with his pendent? It seems like everyone in the cabin should have been destroyed by now.
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Post by Amelius on Apr 27, 2005 10:38:08 GMT -5
At this point indeed...some things require more than simple thought and the wave of a staff, which is what that "work" he does in the shed is, and why even with an ultimately powerful wand he still has magic books (which he said Mye could borrow ^_^)
and yes indeed, if he reallyreally wanted to do something positive (as long as it benefits him first) he can use the pendant for that, but mostly it reacts to negative energy more readily than positve. the barrier he made was indeed protecting him first, and then his friends benefit from it.
And yes he has a lot of control over it when he concentrates on it, he's very good at keeping an even temper when he's around his friends, but he could care less about the general public and tends to go off when only slightly provoked when he's away from home. However, he sometimes lacks control of what happens to his victims, like for example the birds that he exploded, if he has a clear idea though it will go through as he imagines it.
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Post by Rehiro on Apr 27, 2005 16:48:57 GMT -5
How much contact does Hex and Kavonn have to be in with there magical items? If Hex were holding his pendent in his hand would he still be able to use it even if it wasnt around his neck? One time Kavonn was able to leave his staff and make it fly back to him smacking Charby across the head in the process, so when is it that he loses control?
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Post by devi on Apr 28, 2005 20:27:31 GMT -5
I figure Kavonn, being a reasonable person and knowing a thing or two not only about magic but also about the power of his staff, probibly knows a spell or two to ensure that he can keep his staff with him or to help him retrieve it.
In the case of summoning it, I think that this is similar to how Zerloke, another magic-user, summoned his axe. Although in Zerloke's case I think the axe being having chosen him as it's weilder and in being a cooperative magical entity itself, aided in this process, making summoning the axe as natural as tying one's shoe. Whereas Kavonn would have had to mount considerable focus and concentration to amount to anything near the same effect.
As to why he didn't just summon it back from LaBelle, I igure it probibly requires eye contact and concentration, or perhaps the staff refused to be summoned.
Does that sound fair?
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Post by Rehiro on Apr 28, 2005 23:46:31 GMT -5
yeah I suppose that sounds fairly reasonable. Ive been going at these questions pretty heavily as of late and I am afraid that I might not be putting as much thought as I used to before posting.
I kind of had the impression that while the hat might have some kind of will of its own that the staff is only a tool that can be used by anyone. The hat chose Kavonn to wield the staff so that it wouldnt get into the hands of others who might abuse the power. I think that since Kavonn was the last one to be linked with the staff when he used it to hit Charby in the back of the head he was still in control of it, but when LaBelle gained posession of the staff it automatically linked itself to her because it is a simple tool with no will of its own to choose its user.
But your idea sounds very probable too, I might not be giving Kavonn enough credit.
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Post by Amelius on Apr 29, 2005 17:00:27 GMT -5
Hexavier doesn't need to have it around his neck, but generally close to his body (mostly to his heart or hands) if it is close enough he can use it when he isn't wearing it. And actually, the staff clonking Charby was more attributed to gravity than magic, it would seem like a good idea for Kavonn to have a summon spell for it but he likes to do things the hard way for some reason. As for now, the only way he can get the staff long-distance is by using his hair ^_^ I must say those are some very good thoughts on that though!
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Post by Rehiro on May 2, 2005 20:33:19 GMT -5
Can Kavonn use his staff to alter his own body? like could he change himself into a werewolf? I recall the time he gave Daray breasts, he changed that persons physical being but I do not remember him ever changing his own body thus far.
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Post by devi on May 2, 2005 21:37:40 GMT -5
Try not to get too precise in questions of magical stuff. It's difficult/impossible to explain in normal terms and therefore is magic, not science.
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Post by Rehiro on May 2, 2005 23:18:47 GMT -5
ahh...well ive been waiting for someone to tell me to be quiet. Ive basically given Amy permision to tell me that already and if Kavonn didnt want me to question him he would have told me when I asked him if I was asking too many questions.
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Post by deltaT on May 2, 2005 23:35:07 GMT -5
Personally, I don't remember Kavonn changing himself other than his hair, which Amy already explained. But why not? I bet he could. I like Kavonn.
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Post by devi on May 3, 2005 20:56:22 GMT -5
Sorry I didn't mean it like that. It's just that sometimes I think it's better to just get a sense of these things rather than ask for a case by case. For example, there is a magic spoon that turns a bowl of water into porridge, any old bowl of water. So knowing that does it work on a canteen? Probibly. Does it work on a couldron of water? Probibly. Does it work on salt water? Maybe. On the ocean? Probibly not. On an inland sea, I doubt it. On a bathtub, maybe. Y'know. I try not to go for the exact and just get an idea of what the magicy stuff can do. So can Kavonn change himself? Well what do we know, LaBelle changed herself and a Bird and she had a pretty easy time doing it, Daray was given breasts, that the item in question is nigh on all powerful and responds to the will of the user, and that Kavonn does not use it lightly. So based upon all that I get the impression that just about anyone can use the staff to make cosmetic changes to themselves relatively easily. I also get the feeling that while the staff could be used for more advanced augmentation or more total conversion that it would be considerably more difficult to do. I also get the idea that the staff can do just about anything, and that the smaller the task the easier it is to accomplish. Do I know any of this for a fact? No. But I don't have any reason to suspect otherwise.
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Post by devi on May 3, 2005 20:58:45 GMT -5
Again I'm sorry. Don't let me tell you what you are going to do (I can be a little opinionated). It's just that, to me, asking for the exact capabilites of a nearly all powerful device seems crazy because you'll never run out of things to ask.
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Post by deltaT on May 3, 2005 23:28:38 GMT -5
I get the idea that rehiro just likes asking questions!
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Post by Rehiro on May 4, 2005 0:38:23 GMT -5
Yeah its all right dont worry about it, I can be a little opinionated myself. I do understand what your saying and in a sence I suppose I agree with you. I probably could go on like this forever. As deltaT pointed out I like asking questions a lot. Id also like to point out that you (devi) answered my question, I had forgotten that LaBelle had changed her appearance when she had the staff. And do not worry about me changing my ways because of what you said, ive criticised you as well so I figure its fair but as far as my questions go I dont see how they are harming anyone so ill probably just continue on as I have been.
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Post by devi on May 4, 2005 22:20:11 GMT -5
cool
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on May 21, 2005 7:24:43 GMT -5
Kavonn probably could change his appearence, but he's not that type of person. plus he looks uber cool the way he is...
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Post by deltaT on May 23, 2005 0:16:34 GMT -5
Yeah! Vote Kavonn!
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Post by mang on May 23, 2005 1:42:21 GMT -5
kavonn is so lucky to have that staff! I wish i had that staff dont you wish you had his staff?
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Post by Rehiro on May 24, 2005 21:56:46 GMT -5
OK im back to this one. You said that the only difference between Hexaviers pendent and Kavonns staff is that the pendent works defensively while the staff works offensively/defensively but you also said that the pendent has more black magic then white magic, if this is true then does that mean that the staff also professes in black magic?
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Post by Amelius on May 26, 2005 1:17:02 GMT -5
indeed, but the staff is equal in both magics (or any magic for that matter) but it does have its limits, for instance he cannot reanimate dead bodies or create life from it but he can alter a life or take it with the staff. Of course Hex can bring something back to life with the aid of his pendant but not with it alone. I've often forgotten to mention, the pendant often reacts to Hex's happy emotions too, and it glows pinkish-purple when it does. What the purpose is or what it does is still unknown, and we have only seen it do this once. It glows sometimes when he is not using it but extremely angry (like when he threatened Zeno and Fay) but he uses that as a threat more than actually cursing them. when he is actually using it, it will hum.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jun 5, 2005 11:44:33 GMT -5
is hex ever happy? im sure he was... atleast once...
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Post by Rehiro on Jun 5, 2005 12:13:40 GMT -5
I remember him being happy when Mye came back to life.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jun 5, 2005 16:04:19 GMT -5
yeah, but he was a little angry at zeno at the same time. i dont think ive ever seen him shaking with unbridled joy. then again, ive never seen lots of people shaking with unbridled joy... oh well...
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Post by Amelius on Jun 7, 2005 13:08:18 GMT -5
Hex was actually overjoyed there..probably the happiest we will see him, unless I decide to post the comic where he found his sister after losing her for a year...(which I might do)
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jun 7, 2005 14:38:57 GMT -5
oooooooooooooooooooh! posteypostey!!! iwannaseeit!
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