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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jan 1, 2006 17:31:10 GMT -5
I think it gives evil Zeno more evil power, thus empowering him
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Jan 1, 2006 17:32:29 GMT -5
The above is Shippo-chan's 1,500th post. Just sayin'.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jan 1, 2006 17:40:35 GMT -5
OH! Yay! I have..... honor?! Yaaay! *dances*
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Post by Rehiro on Jan 1, 2006 18:25:15 GMT -5
Im telling you guys theres another person in there. Remember that Zeno that was there before master came that wasnt Zeno or master? I think that might be the scythe.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jan 1, 2006 19:04:54 GMT -5
Yeah... And wait.... is master the insanely jealous red eyed one? I don't think so...
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Post by Scarecrow on Jan 8, 2006 17:53:44 GMT -5
Nah... I think not. The Master did mention that Zeno was screwed up before he took over, anyway... It was either Zeno, or Scythe Zeno that killed Mye... Or someone else that Amelius hasn't yet mentioned and is hiding it so she can jump another plot twist at us...
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jan 8, 2006 19:49:52 GMT -5
It was scythe Zeno, cuz realy Zeno would never kill Mye!
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Post by Dundee on Jan 8, 2006 21:51:00 GMT -5
Wow, congratulations, Shippo for your 1500th post. Makes me feel all small inside about my meek 100 something posts. And something Amelius said earlier definately points to the scythe. I forget which board it was in. In the comic comments or something. And remember, Zeno wasn't trying to kill Mye, he was trying to kill the guy who was obsessing over his girlfriend. Alright, that doesn't help much, I'll admit. But it shows that the scythe is a part of Zeno and wants what he wants, it just amplifies his emotions like Charby and the demon episode.
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Post by Rehiro on Jan 9, 2006 21:36:25 GMT -5
And then it accepted the evil spirit in him as the new "master" and started wanting what it wanted.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jan 12, 2006 20:40:58 GMT -5
Exactly. But, I really don't like how Zeno-chan is turning out.... I liked him as a "loser demon" more....
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Post by Scardy G. on Jan 20, 2006 18:48:30 GMT -5
Well, we must grow, we must develop... we must get Zeno into therapy before he blows up everybody's brains...
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Post by Rehiro on Jan 21, 2006 0:08:45 GMT -5
Even without "master" and the scythe, a little therapy might do him good.
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Post by Shippo_no_Neko on Jan 27, 2006 12:02:18 GMT -5
Yeah... One of these days, he might make a character that we love's head go boom!
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Post by Rehiro on Jan 27, 2006 18:25:40 GMT -5
Wow... this thread... wont need to be active for a while.
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Post by magicklorelai on Mar 20, 2006 16:01:56 GMT -5
Er, I certainly came into this thread late...but after the re-installment of all the archives and having read through them, I have something to say on this subject! (I think...)
First, someone asked if "voodoo" could really create zombies. The answer is, first, it's spelled "Voudou", and it's actually a religion. Second, the way that these zombies are created...I don't know how, but it has to do with destroying the memory and personality capabilities of the brain, but leaving the basic impulses and life-sustaining functions intact. It's not done that often or widespread, nor is it a good idea. So...for anyone who likes Zombies, yay! They exist! Sorta.
Regarding Zeno and his evilness...I believe there is something much more screwed up going on inside his head. I think that he was able to pull the scythe out because of something that he was born with, not something that popped into him when he GOT the scythe- he had to have had something that was able to free or respond to the scythe. That's why it reacts when he gets pissed like he does with Mye being endangered.
Or, in short, there's someone/something ELSE in Zeno's head that existed before either Master OR the Scythe. xD That's my guess, anyway.
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Post by Milky the Man on Mar 31, 2006 17:15:01 GMT -5
Good guess...I mean, he must have had some other special aspect to him, otherwise the scythe-in-the-stone would not have come free. Heh, maybe he's the king of demons after Samricke. He's like, the Successornator! O.O
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Post by Awakened on Mar 31, 2006 17:37:57 GMT -5
I had thought of that and it would kind of fit into a happy ending for the story to know that Mr. Slightly Wimpy Nice Guy became the new Demon King. But if he becomes the new king than what of the old? If Samricke must die then perhaps he is doing something evil (more than the usual). Perhaps the Elite Council betrayed Cyril (Cyris?) by screwing with his head and Samricke is pulling the strings behind the Elites. Perhaps he is the force behind both the vampires and the Elites and is using their war to weed out the weakest among the supernaturals. He's had this all planned out from the beginning, for centuries in fact, and only now is he putting his plan into action. Notice how the ordinary vampires wiped out a peaceful demon bunny settlement? Perhaps he is trying to use both sides to clear away the weak and the kindly so that he can create a literal hell on earth. And somehow he will be replaced at the end by his polar opposite who makes a point in trying to help out those who are weaker than him.
But what will become of the others? Thoughts and theories?
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Post by Scardy G. on Apr 1, 2006 14:38:27 GMT -5
Well, Samricke is certainly up to something.
I never really thought about it before "Pirate Days", because he seems so jolly, but he definately likes his friends powerful.
I don't now about the wiping out of the bunny demons. The vampires very much seem like wildcards. But I do wonder why he didn't help Rodricke heal his girlfriend. Without Rodricke, the vampires are without purpose or guidance.
And What of Cyril? Again, it appears that he's a wildcard, and the Elite havepretty much disownedhim, even while they wage war against the vampires.
As for the Demon Scythe, Amy says she got the idea of a Scythe in the Stone from (Well, duh, do I have to say it?), But I don't think she'd follow the storyline to the extent of making Zeno heir to the Demon throne. Plus, it'sseriously messing with Zeno's head. There's something else to it.
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Post by blink11 on Jun 13, 2006 18:51:16 GMT -5
Hmm..you have a good point. I had almost completely forgotten about the 'he was messed up before I came' thing..
hmm.. dunno what it could be though, but I don't think its the scythe
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Post by Dundee on Jun 13, 2006 20:00:49 GMT -5
You don't? Hmm, I guess it is pretty unnatural for a weapon to take over one's mind... Perhaps an entity that binds its spirit to the scythe, who's been waiting for release for hundreds of years until a demon who's mind is weak enough for it to overpower it came. Then, sensing a likely host, it released the scythe from the stone, enabling Zeno to carry it. So it's not a matter of potential strength at all, if my hypothesis is correct.
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Post by Caffeinated Sponge on May 21, 2009 18:16:09 GMT -5
Sentient weapons (or other items) aren't that rare in fantasy fiction. The One Ring wouldn't be a bad example... Sometimes they bring a captive entity that may remain bound to the item or may possess the wielder.
However, as pointed out above, there is definitely more than one effect here. Quixoto isn't thrilled about what he met in Zeno's head. He averrs that he messed Zeno up, claiming that something very big and angry was already there. Zeno was able to claim the Demon Scythe in the first place. Something in the Scythe looking for an ideal host and keeping it locked till then is a nice idea, but I don't thnk that's all we have here even if it's right...
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Post by Artemisia on Feb 8, 2010 22:51:03 GMT -5
Zeno's head is messed but he isn't evil
I also think he is not possessed by the scythe any more than Arthur was possessed by Excalibur. I personally think Zeno is heir apparent to the Scotodinos, his scythe was legendary and in the stone just like the sword in the stone... which is not Excalibur by the way. These types of narratives are not at all uncommon, where the rightful heir is recognised by his ability to perform certain things, these are usually the smallest, youngest, weakest of three brothers, well Zeno seems to be the weakest of his species.
Is it possible his kind were from the dimension of the Elites, The Scotodinos (especially the males) carry all the trademarks of a civilized race in a foreign environment (focus on food and eating it raw, stuff like that but with a high degree of intelligence and language) The big angry thing seems to hate Elites with a passion but didn't blow up the ancient Quixoto who was a bit more intimate with the big angry psychic thing in his head than Charby ever was. Whether that's a result of his powers or not is a matter up for discussion. Quixoto wasn't from the Elite's dimension. Could Charby and Zeno be filling the same roles. The scythe seemed to be able to kill an elite and bonded just like the staff of Oswego or the anonymous axe that Zerlocke has.
I think that the pan dimensional tunnel opened by Cyril dragged a few Scotodino through. Why the Scotodinos are dead though is a mystery. If they are preyed upon by the Elites it makes sense that they cannot read his mind and he can blow up heads. these would both be evolved survival traits.
Awakened,
You just reminded me of another point, Cyrus was the first Persian king so is it coincidence that the first Elite king has a name so similar... Amelius have you read the Histories by Herodotus of Hallicarnassus I keep seeing echoes...echoes...echoes...
By the way I'm Zenny
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