Talks it ups!

[Amelius]

Well this is just a thread to discuss characters that you like or don't like. Go on, give me your thoughts! Talk up or talk down a character you feel is worthy of discussion/disdain.
I'll try my best to keep from crying if you don't like certain ones I do! (I'm just kidding) believe it or not there are some characters I just don't care much for.
I figure this would be an interesting way to critically inspect the personalities of CTV. I'll drop in every once in a while of course to drop some interesting facts about them too. ^_^

[X Daggers]

Well right now Kavonn is being a bit of a poltroon when it comes to Rosemary. I guess you can't blame him since he likes her... Then again, why does he like her? I'll have to go ask him that.

And Rosemary is just being ridiculous. I haven't been too fond of her or really thought much of her before. She seems kinda harsh and obsessed with doing her job, which in and of itself isn't bad. But when she attacks Kavonn it isn't cool and I think I'm starting to dislike her now. I can't understand all work and no play.

Azelea is annoying. Even her name is annoying! I'm not sure if I have spelled it right XP She just likes causing mischief that hurts others and that's not cool. But she is just annoying, and that's it, and therefore not worth much. So I take her with a grain of salt.

[Rehiro]

I agree, Rosemarry is acting foolish. Her words about swooning and stuff apply's more for Kavonn than for her and having lived for as long as she has, she should really know a little more about relationships beyond that of her family's.

[deltaT]

I want to be original, but I also have to agree with X. Rosemary not only reacted disproportionately to Kavonn, but also showed little class in the recent comic. I liked her before, but now I think she has some serious issues. It doesn't take that much effort to turn someone down without crushing them. It didn't make me think less of Kavonn though....he just happened to be the victim of Rosemary's hang up. At least he is still open to the possibilty of caring for someone even though he's been hurt before.

And Azelea IS annoying. 'Nuff said.

I may be going against popular opinion with this one, but think Zerlock is also annoying with regards to Mye. In real life, having a guy that obsessed with you is occasion for a restraining order. It's scary.

OK, one more...I really, really dislike LaBelle. Selfish.

[Rehiro]

Yeah I dislike LaBelle too. Yeah I just dont really like her as a person, I dont have any better reason.

And as for Zerlocke... I guess you cant control how you feel, you can only control your actions. And if hes only doing his creepy Mye obsessing things thing in his own room I think thats alright. But he did turn into Zeno that one time... and I guess hes done other things as well... so yeah its creepy, but whos going to restrain him? I dont really dislike him though.

[Amelius]

Indeed Rosey has quite a few issues, most of it is her applying things she sees wrong with her sibling's relationships to her own. But there is also 2 other major reasons she let Kavonn down, but she didn't have to do it so hard. As we have seen before Rosey is a no-nonsense girl, even in her choice of shoes she remains practical (brown dress shoes as opposed to Claire's favorite basketball shoes, "Chuck Tatylors"also my shoe of choice) While Claire has always been more lighthearted and fun (choosing to play in her idle time while Rosemary broods over issues) Rosemary has taken it upon herself to the "mother" of the two. Also, if anyone has noticed, she shares a few upsetting similarities with another female character she is "close" with...right down to the font she speaks with.
Unfortunately Rosemary has this problem where if she doesn't like something, she'd rather settle it for good than have it possibly come back. She could have easily just killed him and had gotten it over with but she chose to humiliate him instead. She figures letting him down easy would make him think he had a chance. I'm going to let the comic reveal the real answers to the 2 reasons, but for now I'l say that Rosey doesn't like Kavonn for a few reasons: she does think he is smarmy (she'd be hard pressed to find a guy there who isn't though, at least one her AGE) egotistical and a braggart because he did enjoy telling her a few things about himself on the first occasion in which they met and talked. He wasn't trying to brag, but to her it came off as so (he was trying to impress her though)
His overreaction to a few jackalopes in his hat may have also reminded her of certain people....

Azelea, what can I say...she is fun to write for however! I made her specifically to be somewhat overbearing and fangirlesque, and the mischeif-causing is part of her nature being a fairy and all (they live for that conniving stuff) Azelea actually used to be a lot more shy and nice, like Begonia but smarter of course. After Kavonn ignored her for so long and she left, she decided that she wasn't getting her way being nice, so from there on she'll just TAKE her way forcibly! Of course she passed simply being "assertive" and turned to "obnoxious". she makes little effort to think of the feelings of those around her except for herself and whom she deems worthy, that being Zeno at this point.

LaBelle, yes she is a bit on the selfish side, she is slowly being cured of that (or is she?) but time will tell if she finally learns that she can't have her way all the time just because of looks. Before, she tried to be something she wasn't to be with the one she loved, but rejection turned her bitter. Most of what she did was out of sheer jealousy (being mean to Bunny, stealing the staff for "revenge")
now that she has severed ties with Leo she feels the need to "move on" with her "new pack" tottally against the will of K'ale and Sadick, who planned to go seperate ways after finding their siblings.
They are too nice to simply tell her off and from their point of view so far LaBelle has painted a picture of being the victim of neglect by a pack that didn't care about her, kicked her out or gave her to the bad wolf-elves. If she does something other than whine about her life or cower behind her new friends, it will be a slight improvement.

Zerlocke, well...what can I say, I may be a little biased, but I find his little obsession both cute and creepy. If he were unattractive however it would be a different story, huh?
Of course I'm not saying he gets off easy because he's such a looker, I also pity him. most of his "obsession" comes from the nature of his being, elites have that fixation issue going on. For Charby, it's chicken, Vita has her dogs, Claire's is her "Puppy!" now, Rosemary's is work of course, and the others have other small obsessions as well. But of course Zerlocke has focused this and his hopeless romantic tendency on Mye. There is also another thing that Adria mentioned that keeps Zerlocke interested in her but not quite in the same way...(no it's not the farm animal thing!)
the good thing about him is at least he obeys her wishes, for the most part. she tells him to stay away and he will (though she hasn't yet) she told him not to draw her topless, he won't (but it doesn't stop him from thinking about it!) and since she said "wait" to him (though she may have been misunderstood) he will try his best to leave her alone until she "severs the leash and comes running" to him. The best thing about him though is he is at least respectfuk to her in her presence. while he would absolutely love to pepper her with affection a 'la Pepe Le'Pew, he avoids physical contact besides hands and shoulders. He may try and use bad tactics to get her to make contact (like crying, even if he is being legit or faking his death) he won't just go for a full on assault on her personal boundaries.
which brings us around to his sneaky night out as Zeno...he was doing a bit of espionage with that one, not trying to get her in the sack or anything though he of course suggested it to her ( he was unsure of the nature of the relationship) he probably would have stopped before it went too far. The kiss of course was a bit underhanded of him, but he did admit feeling terribly guilty about it and that counts right? well. maybe.
And yes, having someone be that intensely interested in you may be rather intimidating, but he means well and at least he isn't hurting other people in the process, just annoying them.

[Shippo_no_Neko]

Kavonn is just the type of person i like ^_^ he seems like a nice kind of person, and he IS adorable! plus, he has angst, and i like angst ^_^

do you think that kavonn would like me?



i also like tony alot! he has a very awesome personality, too ^_^ the reason for having his hair like that is so cute ^_^ the only thing i dont like is his love for mye. mye is a very likeable character, but tony should really move on. there are so many other girls that he could like.

Mye is a nice, sweet person, but her magnatism for boy's atractions is a little scary. kinda like Kagome, for lack of a better referance.

Zeno was a very cute little depressed demon, but now that he has Mye as his girlfriend, i dont like the manly overconfidence. also, his moments with the scythe are scaary

I like Zerlocke purely because he is alot like me my experience is, when i moved to a new city in 3rd grade, i had never had any real friends! one boy, named devon, offered to be my friend. i was, but eventually, in 6th grade, he abandoned me... i was like a lost little puppy... but, now i can obsess about other things! i have moved on! i think that Zerlocke should get Mye in the end... i dont want him to end up like me...

[Rehiro]

Im sorry Shippo but as long as you persued him for romantic purposes, I would have to guess that Kavonn would not be interested in you. He might take you in as the kind of the Azelea type (not saying that you are). When Azelea was first interested in Kavonn, she was quite a bit nicer but he took it that she only liked him for his power, which was incorrect if you believe Azelea in the "ask a character" thread. And also he thinks that he is in love with Rosemary.

I might have thought at one time that Zeno was one of my favorite characters but not anymore. I still find the ones with him in it quite interesting but I dont like how self interested he is now. Its like he cant remember the times when he was depressed and is now more than willing to rub his success in anyones face who is less fortunate. I dont know if its because of the scythe or because that is simply how he is, but I think he is selfish. Everything he does seems to revolve around his own personal happiness even when he is trying to be nice. I realize that he had had a horrible life up until he got to the cabin but I dont think its all about that.

[Shippo_no_Neko]

Hmm.... Maybe I should try a subtler approach... Umm...

Me: Hi, Mr. Guardian of the hat... I think your suspenders are awesome! Umm... ehhehheh...

*akward silence*

[Rehiro]

It might work to appeal to one of his interests. You might try to get him interested in you before you reveal your feelings for him.... did I just say that?

[Shippo_no_Neko]

Yeah... hmm, I should draw a fanart...

Ahem. Time to rant fully about Mye. (I am sorry in advancce)

Mye used to be my favorite character. Then she got Zeno running after her. Whatever, canon pairings are cool. Then, she had the bunny curse, and got alot of my favorites, like Zerlocke, and even Floaty Bear! Then she got one of my VERY favorites, Tony, and entrapped him in Mye-obsession. Now she is catching another cool kiddie, Crispo! I like her character, but her insane ability to entrap my favorite charas is terrible. Amy, you did a good job of making her, and I think that making everyone love Mye was a good character development tool. I think I just don't like that situation, because I have a similar one. This isn't my place to rant about me, though.

[deltaT]

I think we all have our own biases based on our life experiences. When I was dating my ex-husband, he once broke into my apartment and filled every available container with flowers he had picked out of a public park. I thought this was very romantic at the time...nothing like being worshiped, right? But fast forward several years and two kids, and he became a bona fide nut case....he thought I was part of a government conspiracy to study him and he wouldn't let me out of his sight for 2 minutes. It was very difficult to get away, as you might imagine, and when I did he followed me to a different town and beat up a friend of mine when he couldn't find me. So I am a little touchy about the warning signs that appear during the "romantic" part of courtship.

Sorry to get so serious! But it's true that Zerlocke reminds me of my ex a little.

[Rehiro]

Well... it is a comic full of killing and terror. As horrible as that may be in real life, it would probably just add a little drama for the comic... and it might not be so serious for demons.

I dont really think that Zerlocke is going to turn out like that in the comic, but yeah, I would most definately avoid as much interaction as I could with that guy (were I a character in the story).

[Amelius]

I'm gonna try some blanket coverage on these guys, youse mind? (I mean I adress everyones comments about one character in same paragraph)

Well, Kavonn is rather unpredictable at times, so he might like ya (I'm not just saying to make ya feel better though) He has become a little more tolerant, shall i say, of people, whereas before with Azelea, he didn't care much about either socializing or emotional attachement. By the time he started to come out of his emotional shell, Azelea took a turn for the worse in her attitude and stormed off. She is indeed quite different now in demeanor than she was when she was after him.
As long as you don't just jump-hug him or at least appear interested in what he is talking about, he might warm up to you eventually. That picture is just plain adorable, by the way!

Tony, what can I say about that poor fellow, he can be a little stubborn at times. He's not really so much obsessed with Mye as he is just emotionally attached, see... he has tried to move on and can admit he has a problem, and no solution to the problem, but he doesn't want to move on because his perception of "love" won't let him. Loyalty has been one of his better traits through his life, this was what kept him from attacking his family and friends at night, from causing trouble in town and on the farms, so his family could live in peace. He loved his family, and was shattered when they betrayed him. He thought he was in love with the first girl he knew, but after that encounter (and the fact that she is long dead) made him move on. With little interaction with humans for most of his stay after moving to America, all he did was listen to voices and learn the language enough to get around.
He moved to Kelwood after his home was demolished, living secretly in many home basements until he moved in with the rest of the gang.
His deal with Mye though, is the fact that when he first met her she not only apologized for running into him, but she also swooned over his heroic feats and she even complimented and hugged him!
Now, most contact with the wimmens, demon or otherwise, usually resulted in either screaming and running, or just plain rudeness. Or laughing at his accent. Mye didn't act like he was diseased or something, and of course a hug caught him quite by surprise. But that is just the start, she has been patient with his pranks, nice in general to him, and just a good friend. We didn't get to see what took place after the kids chasing her were disposed of, but they had a long way to walk to get to the cabin and I'd assume that serves for quite a bit of conversation.
Pretty much, all he has wanted is someone to listen to him, and to care about him in even a small way.
She did both, so it went on from there. Of course he felt, at first, it was just simple infatuation, she was a lot of things he likes in a girl but she would get boring later or she was just acting.
But of course she wasn't, it was too late, and as time went on he realized what he let get away from him (though he lacked confidence that he had a chance). Simple case of not knowing what you have (or could have) until it is gone. But in this case, it's right in front of him every day, and her continuing to be nice to him only fuels it, but at this point even if she totally ripped his head off yelling at him he'd find it a bit of a turn-on instead ^_^

As for Mye herself...if anyone has not noticed, for someone with such powers of foresight(wel yea she has to focus to see but that is besides the point) she seems quite oblivious of the feelings toward her, as Tony once pointed out to her.
She doesn't mean to get emotions all bungled up around her, and she isn't trying to ignore them, she just doesn't quite understand why people like her. She doesn't really have the highest self-esteem either but she tries to cover that fact up. While she doesn't think highly of herself it doesn't mean she won't defend herself at times though. Mye tries her best to keep the others around her happy, and things in order, but she doesn't like being considered the community girlfriend/mom at their house.
She doesn't ignore the people, she ignores the problem...the unfortunate fact that the guys seem to like her too easily! She could totally benifit from her position, but that is not her way. She doesn't feel anyone is obligated to serve her, or even like her. She is also afraid to show any affection toward her friends because Zeno has become so jealous. She assumes it is the scythe doing it, but she has no inclination to make him get rid of it, despite the misery it is causing her and her friends. She was deeply hurt when Zeno didn't believe her story, where she finally let a lot of pent-up emotion out, but when he proved he still didn't believe her later, it hurt even worse. But of course she feels much love for him and she knows he still loves her, so she was very quick to forgive him a second time.
And while Zeno has in the past been treated like a "doormat" that was long ago, Mye has had similar treatment consistently through her life too but she doesn't act like a victim like Zeno does.
Mye's uncanny ability to attract the guys may be attibuted to her messing with magic, but that seems too simple a way out. Her problem is she is just there. She's nice, smells like candy and has two different bodies, and she lets the guys get away with quite a bit before she retaliates.(unless of course it involves bad touching or trying to peek at her in shower)
personally, as far as female characters go for me, she is a favorite of almost all my girl characters, in fact she is very, very similar to a character I had before whom I also identified with (not in the same situations though, personality-wise) whose name was Lisa. She happens to be the lady in the poster on Tony's wall. Though I don't get hit on rampantly like she does, Mye handles situations much like I would, not always the best way but in the most familiar way. But in a way, I can say her ability to attract guys is based on something in my real life, as my sister always complains about customers hitting on her at work.

Zeno, the poor sap, is totally oblivious of those around him. He knows something bad is happening to him, but he feels like he needs to fight it instead of eliminate the source of his problems.
This sudden stubborness could be due to using the scythe, but it could also be something else...
and indeed, getting what he wanted for once in his life certainly brought his spirits up, and he has been more confident, but he doesn't realize that no one's stepping on him while he reaches out for ankles to twist. He is still playing the victim...no doubt he suffers from depression, but he hasn't been taking his medication for it lately and is depending too much on Mye to heal his sadness (he really hates taking his meds) and he is even starting to enjoy sadness, sort of in a masochistic way. He is swaying dangerously between victim/victimizer and if he doesn't watch it he is going to tick off the wrong person or drive away those who truly care for him. I still like Zeno, but I admit I really miss the pathetic loser-demon that sat in self-pity and wondered why Mye seemed so far out of his league...

And as for Zerlocke, he is just a hopeless romantic but not a harmful one. If he ever got the chance to have a relationship with Mye it wouldn't be the same paranoid "you're going to leave me if I turn my back" type she has with Zeno, instead she'd have somewhat of a man-slave that does her bidding at a moments notice.While his feelings would be hurt if she started making out with his best friend, as I showed with his relationship with Adria he would get over it in a snap the second she pays attention to him again. I'm not going to say it would be the best thing ever, in fact the constant affection would seem a tad overbearing and questionable but his intentions and his emotions are indeed true, all he really wants from her is to just love him back anyway. And, the ability to say they belong to eachother exclusively, he'd really prefer that! I 'd like to say maybe I can identify with him on a few subjects, just not to such extremes.I do like loyalty but unlike him I know it is best to get out of something that is damaging to your life and well-being.

Ah I wouldn't worry too much about Crispo, he's just slightly attracted to her because she's there.
Tony Zeno and Zerlocke would be the 3 most stubborn to shake off (if she wanted to that is)
heh sorry they are your favorites though (mine too, if you include Vic and Charby in there ^_^)
I admit I'm a little jealous of her in fact, the rate of man-pretty per square mile there...sheesh!

Yowza, I can completely understand why you would be wary of that!
Hopefully he won't remind you so much of that later, he can be a little creepy at times but that is because he didn't really have a typical life either, so he tends to do things in extremes at times.
oh and feel free to rant away! I don't mind, sharing tends to help with problems. I'm sorry that those characters seem to bring some pretty awful things to mind... my condolences to both of you for your experiences though!

[Shippo_no_Neko]

Well, since you said I could...

I had just moved to CT, I had NO friends. Like, when Zerlocke became an elite. I found a friend, named Devin, who gave me attention. Zerlocke found Adria. I worchipped Devin, cuz that was the only friend I had. Zerlocke worshipped Adria. Devin was nice at the beginning, but after three years of having me kiss serious but (not literally), Devin got tired of me. Same with poor Zerlocke. Then, Devin ripped out my heart (not literally). For Zerlocke, more literally. Devin left me alone, without friends, for the longest time. Zerlocke, too. I chased after Devin, longing for that acceptance, and Devin gave me nothing. Same for Zerlocke, only he got chopped up. I turned to anime and the webcomic community for attention. Zerlocke turned to Bunny. When I got bad comments, or was openly hated by the community, it was like Bunny showing Zerlocke who she really was. But through years of torment, I only became a better person. And eventually, I moved on. When I moved to Virginia, Devin realized what a valuble slave was lost. Devin wrote letters, emailed, and the butt kissing was reversed. But I gave her an axe in the neck, rejection. I refused to speak to Devin, or even say the name. Now, I have other friends, I was able to fully move on. True, I am still obsessed with anime, and true, I still get rejection and flames, but the few pieces of fanart, and my healthy collection of 5s have seen me through. And of course, you guys! Thank you for being there for me ^_____^

[deltaT]

Shippo, you just can't take it too hard when someone else's personality disorder gets you down. You know you are a good person, and that is worth more than I can put into words. I'm glad you didn't let this guy back into your life. I've noticed that you put yourself down all the time, but just since I've known you (as much as someone can know someone over the net) you have really improved as an artist, and you really seem to have your head on your shoulders.

[Shippo_no_Neko]

^___^ Thank you! I'm just glad you didn't use the glomp-head-splodey smilie ^_^;

[Rehiro]

Oh yes, I also am happy that I can be of any help to you Shippo!

I was concidering telling you guys about my problems since it seems we are all sharing, but I decided against it.

Amelius mentioned two people problems, but im pretty sure that only delta T mentioned something. Was that second one aimed at me? because I didnt mean to mention anything.

[Shippo_no_Neko]

Thanks again! And, for whoever wants one, FREE DRAWING REQUESTS FOR ALL! W00T!

[deltaT]

Rehiro, I think she was referring to me and Shippo. But feel free to share your troubles too!

Shippo, you should draw a picture of rehiro.

[Rehiro]

No that was before Shippo told us of her trouble. But that would help me with a new conspiracy I have been working on.

[Shippo_no_Neko]

What? Are you going to blackmail me? Huh? Whats going on @____@?

[deltaT]

Actually, if look back Shippo mentioned it first before Amy said that, and then she (Shippo) expanded on it after. So you can't use that as an argument for your conspiracy. Sorry!

[Shippo_no_Neko]

Reehhhh? @_________@

[Rehiro]

Damn! So close... you can avaid me only so long Shippo and Amy, you know I know your secret.

[deltaT]

I'll try to explain, Shippo. Amy said in one of her posts "I'm sorry that those characters seem to bring some pretty awful things to mind... my condolences to both of you for your experiences though!" and rehiro wanted to know who the word "both" referred to, because he thought I was the only one who said something like that. I pointed out that you had mentioned a bad experience too.

As for why he thinks you and Amy have a conspiracy going on...meh, he's Rehiro, what can I say?

[Rehiro]

Yeah and you said a problem directly after Amy said that, so I thought that you hadnt said anything about it previously.

[Shippo_no_Neko]

Umm... ah.... I'M SORRY! *gets flustered*

[Rehiro]

Wha...? you've done nothing wrong.

[deltaT]

Yeah, rehiro just confuzzeled himself for no reason. And I had to go back and read the whole thread again to figure out what he was talking about! Silly rehiro!