Mye's Magic?

[Awakened]

Any theories ot there as to why Mye has never been all that good with magic? There is the possibility that the master's presence was disrupting her powers, but she apparently was bad at it even before she was possessed. I am finding it hard to believe someone who is so dedicated to something would fail at it as badly as she seems to so it seems something is getting in the way. Any ideas as to what? And what does it mean that she was able to use some highly sophisticated magic at the end to save Hexavier? If she could do something like that then why not before and why not later? A fluke or something deeper perhaps?

[Violet]

I don't think that she is bad at magic it think it like Hex said that she has weeking magic because if the fact that she no longer has her wand...i bet she would be awsome if she has her wand.

[Awakened]

No doubt, but didn't she say that her potions kept failing for no reason? Or is that simply the way of magic when you don't have your magical tools for a focus?

[Violet]

It just might rabbit, it just might...

[Awakened]

It just might! But she seemed to screw up a bit before then as well. Of course, that could simply have been her beginnings and she might have gotten up to speed since then.

[Daggertooth]

I don't know if you could say she screwed up alot. Maybe there were a lot of potions we don't know about but we have been able to see alot of her success.
Spells that worked:
love potion for Victor
the first transformation potion
the hair growing potion
healing potions
Changing her hair from white to black
Changing back to zombi mye from bunny mye.

Sure, she can't seem to get rid of the bunny form. But then she is not even sure why she turned into a bunny in the first place or even what it is. Its very complex magic and she is weaker without her wand.

I think the bulk of the problem may just be a self esteem issue. No matter how many successes she has in a day she will remember and be depressed over that one mistake.

She also may be overly critical with her spells. You know, like those artists who make great art yet dwell over the mistakes only they can see or layment that they could have done better.

Daggertooth

[Flagg]

Maybe the instance with The Master was something of a mortal-danger-situation induced kind of deal. It's like in (and I'm almost a little ashamed to mention it because of Toonami...) Dragon Ball Z, every time you think it's all over for our big-haired warriors, they have a sudden burst of power that really was always in them to begin with (as is the case with Mye), but they hadn't had the ability in their hearts to really let that power out. It was The Master's mistake for not seeing it in her, and so he, to misquote a certain bald villain, fell victim to one of the classic blunders: never go against a zombie-witch-sister when death is on the line.

[Daggertooth]

Yeah, maybe thats is. Needing an extreme situation to bring out that extra ability. Slightly similar to Zeno needing mye to be in danger to use the scyth. Could be a combination of the two, I still think mye blames herself too much and dwells on the sad more than the happy.

Um...whats Toonami and why are you embarased to mention something because of it? Sounds familiar...but that would mean it is old....

Daggertooth

[Flagg]

Oh, heh, it was that... Thing... Not really sure what to call it... Anyway, yeah, that thing on Cartoon Network that carried DBZ. I suppose it wasn't really their fault, since they didn't do the translation/censorship/etc., but the Americanized version is, in my opinion, a little scary. Granted, I've never seen the original, so it may be more or less the same...
So yeah, just the general poor quality of anime transmission to American audiences via Toonami is kind of embarassing. It's not all bad, but it could most certainly have been better.

[Dundee]

Grarr, just had this big, nice, pretty post to explain it, and then Flagg had to come and explain it before me. Dagnabit. Sorry for the unneeded post.

[Flagg]

Hardly! : ) You expounded on the near-death-surge thing very nicely. And you mentioned Horse and His Boy, which automatically makes any post entirely needed. : D

[magicklorelai]

In all truth, I think that any weakness is either in her head(imagining it because her wand is missing, or other emotional/psychological problems standing in the line of her focus), or one related to actually missing her wand.

Sometimes, people can be slow learners, but blossom into something more spectacular than the other "buds" that burst before them. I have a suspicion that Mye is actually quite powerful, but because she doubts herself(and is possibly missing an amplifying tool) she limits herself. Hex just might understand it better than she does, and "in comparison", she feels like less of a magic-user.

[Daggertooth]

Hmmm....okay. I never had cartoon network. But I do know that Japanese and American preferences on censorship and decency are not the same. My mom teaches Japanese in highschool and was not allowed to show some basic children shows due to censorship problems.

Just read todays comic. Very nice. I wish I read it before I posted on this topic since it basicaly says I am wrong. not to mention todays comic was specificaly referenced by the original poster.

It may not have been a fluke but more of a stress induced situation.

Daggertooth

[Flagg]

Oh, I completely agree that censorship should happen for public American auidences, since like you say, their ideas about what is acceptable for children are very much different than American ideas. I just wish they had done it in a better way. Changing "I'm going to kill you" (or some other violent phrase) to "I'm going to send you to another dimension" is a bit silly.

(eep, this is very much off topic, I'm sorry! : ( I shan't say anything more about it!)

[Awakened]

(To be off topic just a little longer) The thing I hated most about DBZ wasn't that they censored some words, annoying though that was, but the show itself. I felt almost traumitized by the five minute battle between Frieza and Goku that took practicaly a month to complete.

And anyways, back on topic, Daggertooth makes a great point about all of the magic that Mye has done that has worked out well. As Hexavier said, maybe the only real difference now is that Mye no longer has her wand and thus doesn't quite have his edge. Makes you wonder if Kavonn could just try pulling it out of his hat.

Does anyone wonder as to just what powers exactly the twins gained when they absorbed the master? It was stated that they gained his powers, but what powers specifically did they aquire?

[Scardy G.]

Necromancy?

Actually, I'd like to give in one more throw at why Mye seemed so useless at first, I think she was holding back. She didn't let on how good she really was so that someday she could suprise the Master.

[Awakened]

*blinks* That... that... I should have thought of that! *pouts* Yes, that would make sense given that Hexavier, for reasons unknown, managed to resist. This of course begs another question: why were the twins able to resist in the first place? That was never actually explained. Perhaps they were both just natural talents with magic and could resist it better because they were attuned to it. *ponders*

[Daggertooth]

Thats actualy a good theory. As for magic, I figure magic affects different people differently. Sleep spells don't have a preset timer for everyone do they? Or maybe the master just thought they wern't suppose to be able to resiest. If nobody ever tried before or if they just kept it subtle then he would never be the wiser.

Daggertooth

[Scardy G.]

It stands to reason that he just assumed they could fight it. Kids are smarter than most people realize. Think of all that kid-safe stuff that kids are always breaking into.