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Post by Odin on Sept 24, 2009 1:14:44 GMT -5
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Post by Waker on Sept 24, 2009 11:51:02 GMT -5
Excellent digging skills there Odin. I had entirely forgotten about that line. It does raise an interesting question though, who is the person that Kavonn actually cares about. We can rule out Mye, just because I think Charby would've simply called her by name. I also doubt that it's Phinneas's mother, while I think they are good friends I don't think that she's the most important person in his life. This brings up a new question in my mind. For what reason does Kavonn serve as a spy? It seems odd that a powerful warlock and "creature of neutrality" such as himself would settle as a spy, or even serve anything other than his own self-interest. Perhaps Sammrick is helping him out with some problem on the side in exchange for his loyality. I also don't think that Sammrick is forcing him into anything, as the conversations between the two didn't seem to hold any malice.
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Post by Odin on Sept 24, 2009 23:37:10 GMT -5
I think that Kavonn has transcended a pinacle in which one just feels like subtly influencing events to a specific way in orther to maintain a balance or sorts.
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Post by Waker on Sept 25, 2009 16:12:11 GMT -5
Even Kavonn has admitted that he is no longer the apathetic creature that he once was, but I'm still thinking he does still want things to more or less even out in the end. But you must agree that it is odd for him to be working as a spy, especially when you consider that he used to be in league with the alps prior to Sammrick snatching him away.
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Post by Odin on Sept 26, 2009 0:14:08 GMT -5
And recalling Yiska's words members of the Bureau dont have to take orders from Sammy so that means he was before that in an even higher position and stepped down to spy.
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Post by Waker on Sept 26, 2009 11:41:12 GMT -5
Mystery after mystery surround this Kavonn fellow. What could have possessed him to step down into the position of a spy for the demon king? Not like he's one to be bribed, nor do I think that the idea of political power appeals to him.
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Post by doodlesthebear on Sept 26, 2009 21:58:58 GMT -5
My guess is that 'she' is Azelea.
Just kidding.
Kavonn strikes me very much as having a grand design for how he wants things to turn out. I don't think Samrick would be providing an object he needed, per se; I would think it would be more like an oppurtunity, or access to information, or the ability to get close to someone in the house. Samrick isn't directly offering Kavonn anything, in my opinion. Kavonn got (or is getting) what he wants or needs from the job itself. I believe there is something going on with Kavonn that we simply don't know about, and he used the spy job provided by Samrick to get to what he wanted.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 4, 2011 4:08:30 GMT -5
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Post by Odin on Mar 4, 2011 4:14:47 GMT -5
good digging skillz i'd forgotten about that. and this thread actually.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 4, 2011 4:31:03 GMT -5
I do my best...
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Post by Odin on Mar 4, 2011 4:37:18 GMT -5
Now if it's one of them they must be alive and that supports the multiple hats theory on another comic discussion born from the page you linked. interesting.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 4, 2011 4:58:29 GMT -5
Tis possible. I doubt there's multiple hats, and to get technical, Kavonn would only have to think she's alive. Or possibly Charby didn't see enough into his mind to tell. But yes, a multiple hats theory is possible, though I think she's just wearing his.
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Post by Odin on Mar 4, 2011 5:21:46 GMT -5
That sounds unlikely as the hat is his ward to protect.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 4, 2011 5:29:05 GMT -5
To clarify, I think she was a former guardian.
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Post by Odin on Mar 4, 2011 5:50:02 GMT -5
which would mean that he never met her.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 4, 2011 15:06:43 GMT -5
It's possible that some of the memories shown were not Kavonn's, but rather the hat's.
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Post by nightreflection on Mar 4, 2011 17:23:34 GMT -5
I was going to guess hat guardians were out, but we don't know that much do we? Does the hat move on as needed or does it wait for it's current owner to peg it? Maybe it can forsee future owners? I think, though, that the little angel/fairy at the bottom right is the best candidate.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 4, 2011 22:44:43 GMT -5
Ooh. Excellent point. Another possibility (though extraordinarily unlikely) is that they were Kavonn in disguise at one point. Of course, we all know it's unlikely because the hat "prefers him" as he is and he's not likely to disguise himself for any reason. With the power he has, it's not likely needed and he's not the "sneaky" type, per se.
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Post by ihonestlydontknow on Mar 6, 2011 15:06:26 GMT -5
I don't think Kavonn disguises himself. If he could, I doubt he would be as bothered by those 'roumors' Azalea spread about him. They must have been some roumers, though. Kav doens't seem to be the type that would care what people think about him.
I also must note that I'm pretty sure that the bottom-right corner picture on that page is Salti Seas, Phinny's mother. Though that doesn't really remove her from the running; she is one of his friends and he's known her for a long time and still has a crush on her.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 6, 2011 22:46:21 GMT -5
I think it's Salti too.
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Post by jetylefr on Mar 10, 2011 19:55:27 GMT -5
I like that idea... for now.
but I'm still all for Yiskavonn.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 10, 2011 20:08:31 GMT -5
To clarify (again).
I think that it is Salti in the picture. It's a smaller image, but it certainly looks like her. I doubt the "she" in question actually is Salti.
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Post by jetylefr on Mar 10, 2011 20:10:09 GMT -5
that's what I said...
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 10, 2011 20:22:19 GMT -5
Oh.
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Post by the1truesushiboy on Mar 17, 2011 20:08:39 GMT -5
So, what if perhaps "she" is, in fact, somebody we've not seen at all? What relationship does, or did, she have with Kavonn? Former love interest? Just a crush? Maybe she is just somebody he cares about deeply. Maybe a relative; a descendant of his family? Would they have known each other, if that were the case? Would they have known each other for very long, at all?
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