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Post by Karuto on Apr 13, 2006 23:27:54 GMT -5
Rules and authority suck... Down with the Power! Down with the Power!
What? My way of life isn't good enough for someone else so they have to ruin it for me and everybody else? Boo!
Yay Anarchy!
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Post by Alydos on Apr 13, 2006 23:39:00 GMT -5
I protest your fear of the authority, which is why you try and gain aid to strike at it!
Your way of life is misguided if not for the common good, they do not ruin it, but let you lead a more controlled life, freed from the pointless thoughts and decisions you must make every day. You`re only existence is to be our slave, and I dislike that you do not like that!
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Post by Karuto on Apr 13, 2006 23:59:22 GMT -5
When killing people isn't a crime anymore, your death will be filled with pain. Every bone from your body, save your head and spine, will be torn from your body. One of your eyes will be stripped from it's socket, but still attached, and will be pointed towards your one other eye, so you can see your own eye seeing you. Then, 5 hedgehogs will be placed in your gut and will be provoked into a frenzy inside you. And as you bleed your last drop of blood and breathe your last breath of air, I will slap you on the side of the face and call you a niny.
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Post by Alydos on Apr 14, 2006 0:04:22 GMT -5
Y`know, that doesn`t sound much like complaining so much as empty menacing! Of course a pathetic soul could never keep on topic, oh the sadness of the effort wasted upon your every breath! Celery eating power-hater! I do not like it when people complain, then include hedgehogs, which are annoying clones of Mario! Who himself is an annoying stereotype!
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Post by Dundee on Apr 14, 2006 0:11:22 GMT -5
First of all, I have to say the following. Human society cannot exist without some form of legal rule, otherwise almost everyone will fall prey to procrastination and depression. This does not mean I am supporting dictatorship, but really, millions of people don't have the means to live succesfully without some reasonable laws to follow.
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 14, 2006 0:21:09 GMT -5
In fact, even the forum has rules. One of which is no flame wars. Please keep that in mind.
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Post by Karuto on Apr 14, 2006 0:28:00 GMT -5
Who's flaming? I'm mearly commenting that when the rule that says "No Killing" is overwith, he'll be tortured. Anyways, any flaming in this post would just be defiance against the "No Flamming" rule anyways and following the topic.
Also, Dundee, I know Society needs rules, and I hate that. Like I hate Politics for the fact that we can't live with out it. It's just that I don't like having my life dictated by something outside my power.
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Post by Stonestrike on Apr 14, 2006 0:32:55 GMT -5
While I can understand the dislike of lack of control, sometimes you just have to accept what happens. Our legal system is flawed. Laws are never taken away, only new ones added. That is something we should try to fix. But we can't control everything in life. Then we'd have weather and time machines and everything would run amok.
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 14, 2006 0:38:12 GMT -5
Any flaming may be responsible for getting your account suspended, it being on topic or not. I'm not sure, we haven't had much trouble with flameing, so I don't know how it would be dealt with...
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Post by Alydos on Apr 14, 2006 0:46:38 GMT -5
Y`know, you should use a discerning eye sometimes Wolf. It isn`t flaming when there is the word "hedgehog", or "celery" used in it. I was just trying to stay on topic with the complaining, for I do complain against the rebellion against the rules, despite it's obvious hidden agenda of seeing how far they can stretch.
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 14, 2006 0:55:50 GMT -5
... ... ... ... you know, if I wasn't so tired, I could probaby think of a reply to that...however, since I really can't, i think i'm just giong to apologize to jumping to conclusions. Soo..I'm sorry.
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Post by Alydos on Apr 14, 2006 1:08:23 GMT -5
Aww, and I apologize for being so testy in your presence. *hugs in a very friendly manner* Now who will I look too as an enemy? Hmm, I hope to keep your enmity on other threads.
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 14, 2006 1:16:51 GMT -5
But I don't wanna be enemies! i don't like being enemies, it gives me a headache. Unless you happen to be an ex-boyfriend. Of which I only have one, and I really don't think you're him. >^_^<
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Post by Karuto on Apr 14, 2006 16:03:58 GMT -5
Well, some rules can just cause the worst things to happen.
Like Prohibition... Yeah, that worked wonders...
And wolfy, you're fine. People always jump to conclusions. Only idiots stick by them.
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Post by Alydos on Apr 14, 2006 23:43:25 GMT -5
Harrumph! You seemed to want to be my enemy easily enough! I`m sure you must have split your skull in two!
Come on baby, I need you still, I can change!
Prohibition was a terrible idea, it impeded on the rights of people who wished to destroy themselves. Every person has the right to do that in some way..
Of course, it was a great idea as well, trying to nobly save others so that you could put yourself at a higher moral ground and dance a jig of superiority.
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Post by Flagg on Apr 15, 2006 1:48:32 GMT -5
To do away with rules is to remove everything that keeps us from the potential fun in life! Sounds great, no? ...Well, maybe not so much. Traffic lights are regulated by basic societal rules. Indeed, there is nothing at all from keeping you from running that red light besides rules. Now, granted, it may tick you off to have to wait for it to change, but better that than to have every single intersection clogged with near-constant accidents. Some people enjoy playing capture-the-flag. Personally, I was never too fond of it... But that's another story. One game I doubt many people would much enjoy playing is capture-the-food, in which every person is out trying to scrounge together as much food as possible and keep it away from everyone else, since if it's taken from them, they can't eat. Without rules, this would happen, because there would be nothing to keep someone from taking everything they wanted, which means everyone would go for everything and most people would end up with nothing. I don't have kids. I also don't have young sisters. But chances are if I did, I would not want someone coming in and doing unspeakable things to them. But if there were no rules, I couldn't hope to have anyone prevent this except for myself (and maybe a do-gooder, but why should they care? They're out enjoying the "fun" that no rules would bring!). I don't think it is possible for there to be "no rules" at all. However, I do think society can be stripped down to one rule, the rule of force [See: Stephen King's "The Stand"]. Whoever can control, does. Whoever can not control, waits until they can. Meanwhile, everyone does whatever they want, no matter how horrible it may be. To me, that is a very, very scary thing.
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Post by Daggertooth on Apr 15, 2006 1:57:04 GMT -5
Traffic lights are regulated by basic societal rules. Indeed, there is nothing at all from keeping you from running that red light besides rules. Now, granted, it may tick you off to have to wait for it to change, but better that than to have every single intersection clogged with near-constant accidents. Your example still stands and if not the meaning still holds. But I am reminded of a story I heard by a fellow trekker. I believe it is in Thailand where they have no traffic lights. Every intersection becomes a kind of frogger game with people guestimating how fast they can go to make it through. I hear it is rather amusing to watch especially since people donÂft stop and rarely slow down. I also hear that they are fairly accident free. I believe a person, stuck alone on an island, is perfectly capable of living lawlessly. Daggertooth
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Post by Alydos on Apr 15, 2006 2:07:11 GMT -5
What about the natural law that you shouldn`t dehydrate yourself because it leads to death? They can go drink seawater, and then, they would be dead, so I guess they lived with no laws. How I love topics that aren`t about what I hate, which is two and a half Milena outdated ignorances!
Why would doing these things be fun? You would not have fun if you could do them all the time, it would become boring.
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 15, 2006 10:24:31 GMT -5
No, you just bugged me at first...and I wasn't in the best of moods that day...which is no excuse, i know...sorry... But why do you want an enemy? It seems like a fairly pointless waste of time...
I kind of agree with Flagg...but since rules have never declared what i do for fun wrong, then I really don't have a problem with them...*knock on wood*
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Post by Flagg on Apr 15, 2006 11:58:06 GMT -5
Which means you have wise tastes in what you find enjoyment in. : )
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 15, 2006 12:06:22 GMT -5
Thank you! >^_^<
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Post by Karuto on Apr 15, 2006 14:16:33 GMT -5
What about the natural law that you shouldn`t dehydrate yourself because it leads to death? They can go drink seawater, and then, they would be dead, so I guess they lived with no laws. That's not a "natural law"... It's Common Sense. Natural Laws are really just facts of life with the word "law" put on to tell people that they can't break it. Like Gravity, Magnetism, and Hunger, all these are just natural forces with the label of a law without it really being a law itself. Also, I'm not really calling for an end to all rules and laws everywhere so abruptly. An abrupt ending-action would lead to great casulties. Even though, that if that were the case and the world was thrown into Anarchy, life would eventually settle down into where no laws are needed and life prospers uninterrupted. I mean, if you think about it, Alydos, without laws you could finally challenge me to that duel-to-the-death with me you've been wishing for ever since the start of this topic.
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Post by Flagg on Apr 15, 2006 15:03:05 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I simply have to disagree. Now, if humans were basically good in and of themselves, then sure, but, well, they're not. Anyone who has children, or has been around young children, can learn this pretty quickly. See also, Lord of the Flies. Would some people get along? Sure. But there would ALWAYS be indaviduals and groups at odds with each other, and if there were no rules to kepe their disagreements from becoming out of line, then there would not be prosperity except in brief, fleeting bubbles.
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Post by Rehiro on Apr 15, 2006 17:19:59 GMT -5
Am I more hated than Karuto?
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 15, 2006 17:21:29 GMT -5
We don't hate you, Rehiro. Or Karuto...why do you say that?
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Post by Rehiro on Apr 15, 2006 17:28:16 GMT -5
What? Well, you obviously dont read everything on the forum. I have been accused of some things... of breaking some rules, and Karuto has been quite blunt with his decisions on rules... I was just wondering if my actions have led me to be more disliked then his actions.
And by going off-topic, im disobeying rules, and thus remaining on-topic.
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 15, 2006 17:30:34 GMT -5
Well...I won't deny that you get irratating some times, but who doesn't? And trust me, the only topic that I have not fully read has been the Oh My God topic, becaause the posts there are kinda...intimidating... i'll get to it one of these days though...
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Post by Alydos on Apr 15, 2006 17:47:31 GMT -5
Karuto, I was referring to it more as common sense, just wanted to add law in there to associate it with laws as the topic. Your body usually doesn`t let you die if it has a say, so it sort of is a natural law.
Enmity is motivation, motivation is Strength.
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Post by RyokoDragonez on Apr 15, 2006 17:49:05 GMT -5
Rules are required to keep some amount of order in this forum. Anyone who wishes, can read the "Oh my God" thread to see for themselves what Rehiro has been 'accused' of. You can also see that he himself confirms it in multiple posts.
That particular misbehavior is currently under staff scrutiny and will be dealt with acordingly. Until then, it would be appreciated if no "hate" or "Flaming" is directed at anyone. This includes both Rehiro and Staff members as flaming is -still- against forum rules. End of arguement.
--- Ryoko Dragonez
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Post by Wolfy on Apr 15, 2006 17:51:42 GMT -5
Alydos: Ah, i see.
Ryo: Yes Ma'am! >^_^< (it's good to have you back, Ryo!)
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